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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40271</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marko, I think the Heavenletter Spiritual Community Forum is the place to put drafts of your article-writing. Please read the guidelines of the forum, dear one. Thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marko, I think the Heavenletter Spiritual Community Forum is the place to put drafts of your article-writing. Please read the guidelines of the forum, dear one. Thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40075</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! I see it was Jochen that wrote/responded post to my and not Sally, so Jochen, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I see it was Jochen that wrote/responded post to my and not Sally, so Jochen, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40058</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloria, thanks for clearing up a bit of misunderstanding on my part, and the book recommendation too!  Sounds like a great read! And I withdraw my comment/question of judgment on either Gloria, Sally or Randy.

And Sally thanks for your post to me too! :+)

Since the subject of judgment has come uP I want to send a draft about this subject for an uPcoming newsletter I put out.

It's not necessary to comment, but I'd appreciate any comments insights from either of you, or others.  Hey I'm learning too!

Thanks in advanced.

Judgmentalism by Marko

We really seem fearful of having judgmental feelings of any negative sort, let alone express them honestly.

Folks we have judgments and make judgments all the time.

"WoW she's fat!,
Good Lord that man is short! Look at the boobs on that women!" etc. etc. etc.

Now I have these above judgments and I'm OK with them!

That doesn't mean I disown them, it does mean I'm even more OK with transforming them.

So while I have my initial unconscious judgment on someone, I often then ask myself ok that was my initial judgment, I wonder what's really going on?

So while I have my judgment, I can also suspend it somewhat, not take it too seriously either.

My next step is, I bless that person. Doing so I bless a part of myself that I may not like to recognize within another, even if it's in a much lesser or perhaps greater degree.

(By the way I am a Master. That is, a Master Appreciator and working and playing to be a Master Blesser too!)

So now after I make my judgment, of which I don't take too seriously unless I do, and usually I don't. I bless that person.

I bless the person who is smoking and whom I may for a moment think is a "fricking idiot" for doing so.

It's called transition.

I transition from unconscious temporary reaction judgment to stretching the judgment (like stretching putty) to suspending it, to wondering if there is more to the picture than my little petty judgment to blessing it.

All this is done within moments, seconds, perhaps even nano seconds.

Comments, questions, disagreements, accolades?  Take your pick.  :+) (laugh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria, thanks for clearing up a bit of misunderstanding on my part, and the book recommendation too!  Sounds like a great read! And I withdraw my comment/question of judgment on either Gloria, Sally or Randy.</p>
<p>And Sally thanks for your post to me too! :+)</p>
<p>Since the subject of judgment has come uP I want to send a draft about this subject for an uPcoming newsletter I put out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessary to comment, but I&#8217;d appreciate any comments insights from either of you, or others.  Hey I&#8217;m learning too!</p>
<p>Thanks in advanced.</p>
<p>Judgmentalism by Marko</p>
<p>We really seem fearful of having judgmental feelings of any negative sort, let alone express them honestly.</p>
<p>Folks we have judgments and make judgments all the time.</p>
<p>&#8220;WoW she&#8217;s fat!,<br />
Good Lord that man is short! Look at the boobs on that women!&#8221; etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>Now I have these above judgments and I&#8217;m OK with them!</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I disown them, it does mean I&#8217;m even more OK with transforming them.</p>
<p>So while I have my initial unconscious judgment on someone, I often then ask myself ok that was my initial judgment, I wonder what&#8217;s really going on?</p>
<p>So while I have my judgment, I can also suspend it somewhat, not take it too seriously either.</p>
<p>My next step is, I bless that person. Doing so I bless a part of myself that I may not like to recognize within another, even if it&#8217;s in a much lesser or perhaps greater degree.</p>
<p>(By the way I am a Master. That is, a Master Appreciator and working and playing to be a Master Blesser too!)</p>
<p>So now after I make my judgment, of which I don&#8217;t take too seriously unless I do, and usually I don&#8217;t. I bless that person.</p>
<p>I bless the person who is smoking and whom I may for a moment think is a &#8220;fricking idiot&#8221; for doing so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called transition.</p>
<p>I transition from unconscious temporary reaction judgment to stretching the judgment (like stretching putty) to suspending it, to wondering if there is more to the picture than my little petty judgment to blessing it.</p>
<p>All this is done within moments, seconds, perhaps even nano seconds.</p>
<p>Comments, questions, disagreements, accolades?  Take your pick.  :+) (laugh)</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40025</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even Jochen?!!! I always listen to Jochen.

I am now reminded of something I once heard. It was like this: "When we are fully enlightened, it won't matter what we are doing."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even Jochen?!!! I always listen to Jochen.</p>
<p>I am now reminded of something I once heard. It was like this: &#8220;When we are fully enlightened, it won&#8217;t matter what we are doing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jochen</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40023</link>
		<dc:creator>Jochen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40023</guid>
		<description>Marko, there is much in your post I find very profound and thought-provoking, especially the idea that someone who has gone through so much can serve others that much better. On the other hand, I cannot detect anything judgmental in Gloria's blog entry. She (like myself) is "simply not able to relate to it". At my present stage of development this means that everything I experience as "between" myself and God, any form of religious or spiritual practice, is intolerable. Oneness IS, and I need nothing but my "bare hands" to realize it. That is how I feel, and feel strongly, at this stage of development. But you are absolutely right: No one knows what we will be doing once Oneness is realized. Perhaps things we would find absurd now.

Oh, Gloria, how I love these words: "The truth of my life is that I spent most of it outer-directed, and now I’m not going to have anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!!" I have always vehemently rejected any form of outer-direction. And you know what? My inner-direction was the extreme of outer-direction. And now i'm not going to have Jochen or anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marko, there is much in your post I find very profound and thought-provoking, especially the idea that someone who has gone through so much can serve others that much better. On the other hand, I cannot detect anything judgmental in Gloria&#8217;s blog entry. She (like myself) is &#8220;simply not able to relate to it&#8221;. At my present stage of development this means that everything I experience as &#8220;between&#8221; myself and God, any form of religious or spiritual practice, is intolerable. Oneness IS, and I need nothing but my &#8220;bare hands&#8221; to realize it. That is how I feel, and feel strongly, at this stage of development. But you are absolutely right: No one knows what we will be doing once Oneness is realized. Perhaps things we would find absurd now.</p>
<p>Oh, Gloria, how I love these words: &#8220;The truth of my life is that I spent most of it outer-directed, and now I’m not going to have anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!!&#8221; I have always vehemently rejected any form of outer-direction. And you know what? My inner-direction was the extreme of outer-direction. And now i&#8217;m not going to have Jochen or anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40015</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so enjoy reading books about people's spiritual journeys.  I love the diversity of the many paths to God.   The humor and lightheartedness in Gil's story of his journey was a reminder to me not to take myself seriously. Perhaps our individual journeys are like spokes of a wheel that all lead back to the center.
Love to all,  Sally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so enjoy reading books about people&#8217;s spiritual journeys.  I love the diversity of the many paths to God.   The humor and lightheartedness in Gil&#8217;s story of his journey was a reminder to me not to take myself seriously. Perhaps our individual journeys are like spokes of a wheel that all lead back to the center.<br />
Love to all,  Sally</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-40012</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marko, you are right. The man is so free he sees freedom within boundaries. He chose this path, and it is his to choose. 

Sandy and Randy never said they feel the way I do. They said only that they thought I might enjoy the book. It IS a good read. Thoroughly enjoyable. I am recommending the book! 

I forget who it was -- someone famous -- who said he disagreed with everything a certain person said and he defended to his death the person's right to say it. 

Is this judgment on my part? I don't pretend I am yet without judgment. But if I say I choose the root beer lollipop and someone chooses the grape, is it a judgment? It's true that grape is my least favorite! What can a body say that is not judgment!!! 

I would not (and did not) drop everything in my life and do everything or anything the author did, yet I certainly can understand it. I can even envy his ability. 

That the author finally chose an extremely regimented life and happily does everything by the book day and night -- I am simply not able to relate to it. 

I am not saying that there isn't beauty and merit in following the Hassidic path. There is. Hassidism raises every daily aspect of life above the mundane. There is a blessing for every aspect of daily life. 

The author spent so much of his life being inner-directed.

The truth of my life is that I spent most of it outer-directed, and now I'm not going to have anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!! 

I love your posts, Marko! Keep them coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marko, you are right. The man is so free he sees freedom within boundaries. He chose this path, and it is his to choose. </p>
<p>Sandy and Randy never said they feel the way I do. They said only that they thought I might enjoy the book. It IS a good read. Thoroughly enjoyable. I am recommending the book! </p>
<p>I forget who it was &#8212; someone famous &#8212; who said he disagreed with everything a certain person said and he defended to his death the person&#8217;s right to say it. </p>
<p>Is this judgment on my part? I don&#8217;t pretend I am yet without judgment. But if I say I choose the root beer lollipop and someone chooses the grape, is it a judgment? It&#8217;s true that grape is my least favorite! What can a body say that is not judgment!!! </p>
<p>I would not (and did not) drop everything in my life and do everything or anything the author did, yet I certainly can understand it. I can even envy his ability. </p>
<p>That the author finally chose an extremely regimented life and happily does everything by the book day and night &#8212; I am simply not able to relate to it. </p>
<p>I am not saying that there isn&#8217;t beauty and merit in following the Hassidic path. There is. Hassidism raises every daily aspect of life above the mundane. There is a blessing for every aspect of daily life. </p>
<p>The author spent so much of his life being inner-directed.</p>
<p>The truth of my life is that I spent most of it outer-directed, and now I&#8217;m not going to have anyone tell me what to do and when to do it etc.!!!! </p>
<p>I love your posts, Marko! Keep them coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
		<link>http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/spiritual-traveler-gil-lock.htm#comment-39998</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, Sally, Gloria,

Reading this it seems you both seemed attached to a certain path that appears to be freedom of a certain kind.

The kind Gil lead early on that is.

This man may be seeking another kind of freedom in the form of disciplines that you feel are not freedom at all.  That seems to be a judgment on your part no?

Also, perhaps by understanding the extremes of total freedom to total rigidness he sees the larger picture and truly understands it because he has experienced it all. Or much of it.

From here he may help others decide from that vantage point (if one cares to accept and be receptive to that vantage point) the better options that people desire since he's explored them all including extremes in a way most others don't.

Maybe this is preparation for an uPcoming future lifetime.

Chocolate coated blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, Sally, Gloria,</p>
<p>Reading this it seems you both seemed attached to a certain path that appears to be freedom of a certain kind.</p>
<p>The kind Gil lead early on that is.</p>
<p>This man may be seeking another kind of freedom in the form of disciplines that you feel are not freedom at all.  That seems to be a judgment on your part no?</p>
<p>Also, perhaps by understanding the extremes of total freedom to total rigidness he sees the larger picture and truly understands it because he has experienced it all. Or much of it.</p>
<p>From here he may help others decide from that vantage point (if one cares to accept and be receptive to that vantage point) the better options that people desire since he&#8217;s explored them all including extremes in a way most others don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Maybe this is preparation for an uPcoming future lifetime.</p>
<p>Chocolate coated blessings.</p>
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