I don’t consider it selfishness to define the currency under which they must operate.

I’m not saying at all that someone should suffer due to monetary constraints. I am saying that in order for employees to work at those facilities and feed their own families, there is a necessary exchange of dollars which they in turn use for housing, food, clothing and all of the items necessary for familial support.

Do you give away your books for free? Do you hold your seminars for free? I imagine there are exceptions, but have you given free books to everyone regardless of whether they could pay? You do offer your website for everyone to read. That is a form of giving and it is most welcomed. How about those who don’t have access to computers? Do you give your books away so they can read God’s writings thru you?

Acknowlege you have to pay to have your books published. You have to pay to have them shipped. You have to pay the airlines to transport you to your workshops.

Money is not an evil. It is a tool and I stand on my statement that those whoc ome to work here, are welcomed and should welcome the opportunity to be subjected to the same tax laws as those of us who pay for their support. “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” is not a new philosphy.

What point can I possibly be missing in this discussion?
~ Joie

I never responded to the comment directly above yours, but I will now.

I know money is often given as justification for selfishness, as though money must come before kindness, dollars and cents before everything else. The idea that someone who is poor and hungry has to pay before he can come to live where there is opportunity seems so short-sighted, I can hardly bear it.

I really agree with you….

Intellectual concepts don’t pay salaries. Ideas, goals and dreams can produce programs that incorporate all who have needs. I can no more take people into my home and feed, clothe and house them for free than most people could on a permanent basis. I HAVE participated in sponsoring refugees from Vietnam who as soon as they hit Iowa, moved to CA to live with those who had gone before. I was glad they escaped to a better life, but they had a skill and a place to land here while they worked to earn the tickets for those they left behind to join them.

There ARE categories of business that have come to rely on the labor of non-citizens, who will often work for less so they can live in the land of dreams and possibilities. There are truly jobs that most of us would not like to take and the Iowa slaughter houses rank pretty well up there - as anyone who watched the videos last week of abuses to animals while creating the attractively presented steak we order at a restaurant or the hamburger that we toss at our children as we drive thru the “do you want fries with that?” window.

The stats that our contributing writer offered are impressively prepared.

My daughter sells real estate. An industry already struggling. Her brother-in-law and wife were let go by an automotive industry job because we have found markets outside the US, and also the inflated oil situation made worse by Bush’s war.

Her BIL’s home has a neighbor who has a yard that displays every conceivable type of purchase imaginable, thus impacting the value of the home they are trying to sell. Again, this neighbor is not Mexican, altho my SIL is. The impact of having a neighbor who is demonstrating total lack of respect for the neighborhood by living in such chaos is exactly a mirror of what the writer above is trying to address.

Nobody is trying to keep anyone “out” who is willing and demonstrates responsibilty to live by the same rules our country asks of every citizen.

In fact, if you want some real eye-opening information, do a goggle hunt of what the laws are for an outsider to become a Mexican citizen!!

Yes, we are all sons and daughters of immigrants. Immigrants who most likely were not treated well at the beginning of their early years here. Those stories are legendary, as they created their own neighborhoods and fought the wars within cities that they once waged in prejudices in the ‘old’ country. We became a more homogenous society when the exchange of good served the whole and began the spirit of cooperation that exists in most parts of our country today.

The same reasoning fosters cooperation between nations. Yet in some less-enlightened and developed countries, the old ways of control and fear keep people enslaved and create conflicts which vibrate at a much lower frequency than those of us who are always looking “up” for the best life we can demonstrate.

The concept of “Give us your tired, your poor,” still lives. And as we embraced more and more to our country, we developed reasonable standards for those in order to maintain a balance for good of the whole. If a clinic closes due to the overload of people using it for free. I know of no medical facility that can get enough supplies donated to stay in business. Hospitals are not charity wards, altho they are becoming so - and even bandaids, gauze and antibiotics cost money. The companies who manufacture them do not “give” them away. The shareholders would revolt! I do not know of a country where people can steal from others simply by showing up, but I could be wrong and if so, I trust someone will write to me an tell me in no uncertain terms that I am!

Being in America is still available to those who agree to carry their own weight. What I think we resent is when the balance is thrown off by those who are not willing to respect the balance.

There is “God’s law.” There is “human law.” One is an ideal. The other is borne of necessity. And they are not that far apart……..

“Render unto God, that which is God’s and render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” was once stated by a very wise man who walked the earth a couple of thousand years ago.

It says in a few words what I tried to say in a few hundred. It isn’t about prejudice or unfairness. In fact, it is about balance and fairness to all. ~ Joie who used to live in Iowa near Gloria, has lived in the SE and now resides in the Midwest once again.

I love every word you write. It is hard for me to understand how everyone does not feel this way.

It may be that Sachuman1 was responding to a posting of mine and was referring to Iowa rather than Oregon. Not that that’s point anyway. I love how you say everyone is our brother, and I am my brother.

Sachuman1, you haven’t answered my questions either.

God bless us all.

With love,

Gloria

Dear m h,
From your first paragraph I gather you didn’t read my last email. . . . as I stated Oregon is a melting pot of many different Nationalities including Mexican and yes, even on the National news as well as local. . . . there has been reports of illegal aliens here in Oregon they deported many, many back to Mexico, thereby tearing families apart and leaving behind American born children, as they are left in limbo… not Mexican citizens, so they can’t go with their parents to Mexico and have no one to take them here in America . . . . Land Of The Free. . . . if they are allowed to be.

I have not idea where you go the idea Oregon is overwhelmingly Caucasian (over 90%). Nothing could be further than the truth. I repeat; Oregon is a melting pot of many different Nationalities; Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, Cuban, German, English, African and more I am sure.. On the block where I live there is 4 different Nationalists.

And my dear . . . .crime, corruption, drugs, poverty, gangs, loud music, and hopelessness also lives here in Oregon as well as every state in the Union. California doesn’t have ‘ownership’ of these life experiences, we all do. They are all around me, but don’t bother me …. you know why? Allowance and non-resistance to crime, corruption, drugs, gangs, loud music. The poverty and hopelessness I do all I can do to help with.

I key is how do we ‘react’ to them? You want then out of your life? It is very simple really. Stop resisting them. Accept them for what they are. Thereby not drawing them unto yourself. You chose these experiences no one forced them on you. You chose to live in California. Although it wouldn’t have mattered where it was you chose to live because you would still have had to experience the things you chose to experience in this lifetime and learn how to handle them. Your experiences are based upon the choices that you make. Each one of those choices has the potential to take you down a different fork in the path. To experience a different level of Soul-growth.

“The law of attraction, by its very existence, decrees there are no victims. You live in a universe of perfect justice. We know some of you will argue with that. But the law of attraction always — no exceptions — matches whatever your vibration is. And so every experience you have in this lifetime is there because you drew it to you.

“You are not disempowered victims. You are powerful creators.

“All of you create in your own way and in your own time. You cannot avoid creating your own realities. Sure, you can choose to make no choices. But that, in itself, is a choice. And so you create everything, everyone in your life. You cannot not create. But you do create by default or by deliberate choice.”

~ Chief Joseph ~

You have choices and in all choices there are negative and positive. Choose wisely. Choose peace over war, love over hate, forgivness over vengence. Feel those energies of peace and love that creates the feeling of joy. Hate, bigotry, vengence . . . all of these negative choices create the chaos in your world. Be the Love that brings Peace to the world.

You are the Creator in every way of your own reality, and you create that reality from your perceptions, beliefs of who you are and ideas about that reality. You are a powerful being.

Perception is one of the most important words in your life. It determines your outlook on life. It controls the A, B, C’s of daily existence. What are the A, B, C’s? A-ttitude which equals B-ehavior which equals C-onsequences. Change perception and you change the A, B, C’s.

What you presume something to be may not necessarily be true and that perception (judgement) controls your attitude towards it, which in turn will control your behavior towards it and the consequences (end result) will all stem from your perception of the given situation.

Perception is all there is… the rest is illusion.

Like Gloria, I wish you would read Heavenletters. I also wish you would read my daily newsletter, you would receive much encouragement from both.

Now, it matters not to me whether or not you believe what I say to you…. Again that is your choice. I say it all, with love in my heart for you, and all of mankind.

This is my last reply on this subject.

I wish you Joy, Love & Peace,
Isis
“Lady of the Light”

The road is long
with the many winding turns
that leads us to
who knows where?

But I’m strong.
Strong enough to carry him.
He ain’t heavy, he’s my brother.

So on we go.
His welfare is my concern.
No burden is his to bear.
We’ll get there.

For I know
he would not encumber me.
He ain’t heavy, he’s my brother

If I’m laden at all,
I’m laden with the sadness
that everyone’s heart isn’t filled
with the gladness of love for one another.

It’s a long, long road
from which there is no return.
While we’re on our way to there,
why not share?

And the load doesn’t weigh me down at all.
He ain’t heavy, he’s my brother.

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No not just for some but for everyone.

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No, not just for some but for everyone.

Lord, we don’t need another mountain,
There are mountains and hillsides enough to climb
There are oceans and rivers enough to cross,
Enough to last till the end of time.

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
No, not just for some but for everyone.

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No, not just for some, oh, but just for
Every, every, everyone.

I wish you Joy, Love & Peace,
Isis
“Lady of the Light”

I once lived in Southern California and was in a very abusive relationship. Had it not been for a Mexican family who took me and my two children in and shared what little they had with us, there is no doubt in mind I wouldn’t be here today. I have families of Mexican’s living near me and they are no different than the caucasion, black or vietnamese. Oregon is a melting pot of people from all over the world.

Not all human beings no matter where they are from, have consideration for others when it comes to loud music and just making noise. There are Oregonians who resent Californian’s, they say they have caused the price of housing to raise here. That is as not true.

Whatever you take on and oppose you are energizing.What you resist persists. And could it possibly be karma? California once belonged to Mexico.

When you stop to look back on the history of this planet the only actual real American is the Indian. The rest of us, ALL our ancestors, came from another country to make a better life for us and our families . . . . our ancestors were poor and arrived in this country with little or nothing. How can we in a country that has what this one does not share with others that have nothing? Why can’t we open our hearts and love all of our brothers and sisters? For it does not matter what color our skin, what our religious or politcal beliefs are . . . . we are but one family . . . . the human family and made with love by the same Creator. Inside we are all ONE.

I look for the divinity within every man and woman. I believe there is something infinitely beautiful and precious in every being which deserves to be considered and loved. How could there be any less since we are ALL ONE with the Source of ALL That IS? By seeking the divinity in each man and in each woman, I show faith and love for the Creator/Source of All That Is. Therefore also showing love for you and for myself.

Holding resentment is like you taking poison and hoping the next guy will die. It only hurts you.

I pray to one see mankind coming together and stop the bigotry, the hate and resentment. For until that happens there cannot be peace on Earth.

Are you your brothers keeper?

Yes! For “you” are your brother.

I wish you Joy, Love & Peace,
Isis
“Lady of the Light”

I am a spiritual being who is having a physical experience. There are certain constraints or laws that must but observed when we agree to incarnate in human form. In the same manner, humans up set up systems with laws that must be observed or there will be consequences. The citizens of California are experiencing the negative consequences of our government’s complete failure to enforce immigration laws. No doubt Iowa will eventually experience the same negative consequences of open borders as well. Maybe you should be careful of what you wish for?

Can’t you see how selfish it is for illegals to jump ahead of others who are trying to enter the country legally? You mentioned that your father and mother immigrated to this country—did they come to this country legally or did they selfishly jump ahead of others who were trying to enter this country legally? I work with a woman who came to this country legally from the Philippines. It took her years to be able to get here legally and she is still trying to get the rest of her family here legally. She sadly said how unfair it is to see millions of Mexicans just drive over the border and stay here illegally and then demand their rights when it has taken her and her family years to do enter this country legally.

So you want to ignore U.S. immigration laws, which other laws do you want us to ignore? Maybe you don’t like our country’s tax laws and want to ignore those laws too? You stated that the U.S. should provide an education to anyone who enters the country, but where will the money come from to educate people if most citizens of this country choose to ignore U.S. tax laws? What about traffic laws—can you imagine the chaos that would occur if everyone just ignored traffic laws?

Finally, if God is speaking to you so strongly on this issue, when are you going to open your home and your wallet to families who have entered this country for a better life? You appear to have a large spread where many illegal families could live. You do not know what good to this country one of their children could bring! So just do it!

First of all, will you kindly subscribe to Heavenletters? Give Heavenletters a chance? You can subscribe here:
http://www.heavenletters.org/maillist/index.php Will you do it? Or tell me, and I’ll subscribe you.

I would also love a name to address you with. I do not know if you are a man or woman.

Since we are honest with each other, I have to tell you that the facts impress me not one bit. I will listen to God over facts any day of the week.

I read the facts differently from you. If someone comes here with less than a 9th grade education, let’s give him more education. Is it not a privilege to give someone an education?

I will remind you that my mother and father came here with no formal education. None. They did not know each other until many years later, but my father was 18 when he came, and my mother was 12. My father put x’s in chalk or in stone on the sidewalk so he could find his way around. My father went to night school and when the teacher put him in the second grade, he was so afraid that he could not live up to it, he never went back. My mother at twelve put her hair up and went right to work.

The people you would exclude from U.S. are or will be someone’s mother and father, and you do not know what good to this country one of their children may bring.

Of course I do not like the MECHa motto: “Everything for the race, for those outside the race nothing…” I have to ask you: Is this motto all that different from what you are saying?

Dear One, I am not patient with you! You make me think of a lot of things to say, and I am grateful for that.

I think friends let each other have their say.

With love and blessings,

Gloria